The Antarctic Volcanoes Project Blog: The Greenhouse Effect In A Water World

Monday, May 17, 2021

The Greenhouse Effect In A Water World

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/05/16/the-greenhouse-effect-in-a-water-world/

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[[The IPCC and most sceptics believe that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will produce about 1.04 ± 0.1C (Andrews 2012, CMIP5) warming at equilibrium if we assume that there are no feedbacks in the system. This is not controversial.

The IPCC then multiplies this by three to get an after feedback warming of 3.0 ± 1.5C largely due to the amplifying effect of extra water vapour and cloud changes]]

[[There is a transparent window to space at wavelengths approximately between 9 to 16 microns. Long wave radiation in this wavelength range generally passes unrestricted to space through this window. The introduction of CO2 to the atmosphere restricts radiative flow centred around 15 microns. It closes this window slightly. This warms the planet, as shown in Figure 1 but loses all potency by the time CO2 concentrations reach about 600 ppm.]]

Here again we have the IPCC's fake physics hoax that refuses to die, no matter how many times it's slain. Of course 15 microns is the main radiation from dry ice at -78.5C, and can't melt an ice cube. It's actually -80C. Guess what? -80C isn't heat, and can't warm anything in Earth's atmosphere or surface. Instead, the Earth surface temperature range is -50C to +50C, thus all of its radiation goes right through atmospheric CO2 untouched, meaning that it can't have any effect on the climate. This makes the "average CO2 emission height" into meaningless moose hockey. This whole line of thinking is intellectually bankrupt.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-greenhouse-gases-in-the-atmosphere-translate-into-warming-oceans-I-understand-heat-reflected-back-in-the-form-of-infared-light-reacts-more-with-these-gases-to-heat-the-atmosphere-but-how-would-this-trap-heat/answer/TL-Winslow

https://www.quora.com/What-does-science-mean-in-the-following-question-Why-do-people-deny-the-science-of-climate-change/answer/TL-Winslow

What does the IPCC do instead of real climate science? It either pushes video games called computer climate models that bear no relationship to reality and are just hopped-up to output predetermined global warming, or they resort to Communist-style fake statistical measures called Global Avg. Temperatures (GATs) to feed the public to justify their future Five-Year Plans for the Climate when they finally break through to the big bucks, as is about to happen in Biden's U.S.

https://www.quora.com/Are-The-Global-warming-climate-change-theory-models-oversimplified-and-or-corrupted-by-data-that-is-not-accurately-representative-of-reality-the-main-reason-for-their-dismal-track-record-on-their-predictions-could/answer/TL-Winslow

http://www.historyscoper.com/whatistheuseofglobaltemperature.html

What is needed is not more junk science articles pushing CO2 equilibrium sensitivity, but a population replacement, a new generation of real climate scientists grounded in real not fake physics who don't owe anything to the corrupt Marxist-run U.N. IPCC. Right now I seem to be the only one, but I'm trying to multiply myself by offering a free online Climate Science 101 course that contains the essence of 50+ years studying physics and thinking about Earth atmospheric science while the IPCC has been busy creating a fake climate science solely to push the CO2 global warming hoax, requiring it to literally turn physics upside-down. Right now if you're interested in not becoming a dodo bird it's time to devote study time to master the course so you can keep up with me and my growing student body. Mea culpa: I was busy doing other things for the last 30 years while the IPCC menace grew unchallenged, and hope I'm not to late to stop massive irreversible damage.

http://www.historyscoper.com/climatescience101.html

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What Is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project?

It's too bad the current brouhaha about CO2 is so narrowly focused. So what if a higher concentration in the atmosphere raises global average temps? If higher temps were accompanied by increased atmospheric moisture, it would even out around the world and turn it into a paradise planet, greening the deserts so that the teeming billions could be fed. Cold temperatures are inimical to life, not a goal of life.

Too bad, it might take a lot more CO2 than you think to really change the global weather, but not because it has any control over Earth's surface temperatures. In fact atmospheric CO2 can't melt an ice cube with its 15 micron main radiation wavelength that has a Planck radiation temperature of -80C, colder than dry ice (-78.5C).

Why do they call CO2 greenhouse gas? Because plants breathe it, and they pump it into greenhouses to help them grow and thrive. Polar regions and deserts look good in postcards, but who wants to live there. Meanwhile global pop. is zooming, so obviously the real answer is to pump more CO2 and water vapor into the atmosphere to turn the Earth into a greenhouse, turning deserts both hot and cold into lush green crop-growing regions like 35 million years ago when the avg. global temp was 88F and the CO2 level was 1K parts per million (vs. 415 PPM today). So what if we lose some desert polar regions and even some yummy coastline, the adjustments will be inconvenient but temporary, but I prefer shirt-sleeve weather to Frosty the Snowman. How many arctic animals can't adapt to a warmer climate? What animal needs to live in ice and snow and wouldn't like a vacation to Tahiti? They can lose the fat, hair or feathers.

The real question is can we make and keep the global CO2/H20 levels high enough, and for how long? Sooner or later mass global starvation will become unstoppable if world pop. keeps climbing, and this is the way to forestall it, if we act soon enough. Don't give me them Malthusian objections, give me some CO2/H20 solutions. I like a paradise Earth in the possibility window.

So, while the world is debating the horrors, extent or lack thereof of global warming caused by CO2, let's engineer the CO2/H20 solution to making the Earth a warm temperate planet from pole to pole with no deserts or ice wastelands, allowing vastly more food to be grown and turning poor nations rich. I DON'T mean a planet with wild swings between super-hot summers and super-cold winters, but one that is warmer than now everywhere, but moister and greener, with a giant network of plant life helping to avoid extremes. Since CO2 and water vapor are the keys, and the paltry amounts in the atmosphere need to be increased as soon as possible to turn deserts green and get the warming process off to a good start, but the new levels have to be maintained permanently, I'm looking to remote Antarctica (which is really a sea) as the most promising source for unlimited CO2 and water vapor generation, given that noxious emissions (sulfur dioxide, etc.) can be controlled.

This blog is for posting news on the world climate situation, scientific and political, along with my own articles. I'm sure it will start out with hardly any interest or followers, but I'm hoping that it will attract the smartest people eventually and in the end I hope for a global consensus that if it can be done it must be done.

So what is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project? My working idea is that an international effort to reactivate as many volcanoes in Antarctica as possible in an ideal location for distributing the CO2/H20 will produce the best and most cost-effective results. Sorry, one-worlders, it won't give you a license to override and control any country's economy, but if your country is suffering from lack of food you will be too busy expanding farming to care. Hence until I think of or hear about a better way to increase world CO2/H20 levels, this is my pet project. If you are a scientist, please climb aboard my AVP Express and let's make it happen.

It Would Be Funny If It Were's So Sad

It would be funny it weren't so sad, but when the scientists say "greenhouse gas" they are using a malaprop. It should be greenhouse GLASS, because that's why a greenhouse stays warm, by glass walls stopping convection of air and trapping heat. Yes, CO2 is pumped into greenhouses, but not for heating purposes, only to help plants BREATHE. So the whole sucker's game of "greenhouse gas" must truly be for the purpose of stopping more vegetation from growing and feeding the teeming billions. Is that their true goal? Another blip on the horizon is the promise of melting permafrost releasing gigantic amounts of CO2 from the Arctic not Antarctic sector. Let's hope we at least get some more good CO2 that way.

Jan. 14, 2011. Good article on CO2 levels and global temps 30-40 million years ago