Thursday, February 7, 2019

Do plants grow faster in a CO2 rich environment?

https://www.quora.com/Do-plants-grow-faster-in-a-CO2-rich-environment

https://www.quora.com/Do-plants-grow-faster-in-a-CO2-rich-environment/answer/TL-Winslow

My reply:

The CO2 greenhouse warming alarmist camp does everything it can to paint CO2 as a bad gas, when in fact life couldn’t exist without it. Knowing full well that CO2 is what plants breathe, and that increasing concentrations boost plant growth, they try to ignore that and paint horrible pictures of too much CO2 backfiring and lowering the nutritional value of plants et al., usually concentrating on crop plants that are used to living in cold climates in the first place. Too bad, they ignore that commercial greenhouse operators regularly pump in CO2 to reach 1200–1500 ppm, and the Earth’s atmosphere is only at 400 ppm and increasing only by 3 ppm/year.

Managing CO2 in Your Grow Space
Climate, Green Plants and Oxygen | PSI Intl
https://principia-scientific.org/rise-in-co2-boosts-red-spruce-forest-growth-by-106/
CO2 Levels Continue to Increase at Record Rate

No matter what really drives Earth’s climate, basic physics makes greenhouse warming theory impossible, and those who push it are suspect about their real intentions. The big con is that they don’t want you to realize that the only function of the atmosphere is to cool the Earth’s surface after the Sun heats it by taking the heat energy up into outer space, where it is lost forever. Moreover, the heat energy is automatically lost during the rise because the air has to trade it for work in overcoming the atmosphere’s gravity gradient. Thus by the time it has reached the upper levels, there is little energy left to dissipate into space anyway. Either way, CO2 is just part of the atmosphere and helps carry the heat away, and can never send it back to the surface or trap it in a “blanket”. There is no blanket, and the Earth is not a greenhouse, it’s a chimney, and the atmosphere keeps surface temperatures within livable limits purely by its great mass, which slows the process of taking the heat from the surface; but once it’s left, it’s never going to return and is of no value to people living on the surface, or global warming threat either. Water vapor is also a so-called greenhouse gas, but it’s only purpose is to cool the surface even more via precipitation. If you haven’t read my simple and devastating disproof of greenhouse warming theory, you’re going to stay an easy mark and get your pocket picked.

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What Is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project?

It's too bad the current brouhaha about CO2 is so narrowly focused. So what if a higher concentration in the atmosphere raises global average temps? If higher temps were accompanied by increased atmospheric moisture, it would even out around the world and turn it into a paradise planet, greening the deserts so that the teeming billions could be fed. Cold temperatures are inimical to life, not a goal of life.

Too bad, it might take a lot more CO2 than you think to really change the global weather, but not because it has any control over Earth's surface temperatures. In fact atmospheric CO2 can't melt an ice cube with its 15 micron main radiation wavelength that has a Planck radiation temperature of -80C, colder than dry ice (-78.5C).

Why do they call CO2 greenhouse gas? Because plants breathe it, and they pump it into greenhouses to help them grow and thrive. Polar regions and deserts look good in postcards, but who wants to live there. Meanwhile global pop. is zooming, so obviously the real answer is to pump more CO2 and water vapor into the atmosphere to turn the Earth into a greenhouse, turning deserts both hot and cold into lush green crop-growing regions like 35 million years ago when the avg. global temp was 88F and the CO2 level was 1K parts per million (vs. 415 PPM today). So what if we lose some desert polar regions and even some yummy coastline, the adjustments will be inconvenient but temporary, but I prefer shirt-sleeve weather to Frosty the Snowman. How many arctic animals can't adapt to a warmer climate? What animal needs to live in ice and snow and wouldn't like a vacation to Tahiti? They can lose the fat, hair or feathers.

The real question is can we make and keep the global CO2/H20 levels high enough, and for how long? Sooner or later mass global starvation will become unstoppable if world pop. keeps climbing, and this is the way to forestall it, if we act soon enough. Don't give me them Malthusian objections, give me some CO2/H20 solutions. I like a paradise Earth in the possibility window.

So, while the world is debating the horrors, extent or lack thereof of global warming caused by CO2, let's engineer the CO2/H20 solution to making the Earth a warm temperate planet from pole to pole with no deserts or ice wastelands, allowing vastly more food to be grown and turning poor nations rich. I DON'T mean a planet with wild swings between super-hot summers and super-cold winters, but one that is warmer than now everywhere, but moister and greener, with a giant network of plant life helping to avoid extremes. Since CO2 and water vapor are the keys, and the paltry amounts in the atmosphere need to be increased as soon as possible to turn deserts green and get the warming process off to a good start, but the new levels have to be maintained permanently, I'm looking to remote Antarctica (which is really a sea) as the most promising source for unlimited CO2 and water vapor generation, given that noxious emissions (sulfur dioxide, etc.) can be controlled.

This blog is for posting news on the world climate situation, scientific and political, along with my own articles. I'm sure it will start out with hardly any interest or followers, but I'm hoping that it will attract the smartest people eventually and in the end I hope for a global consensus that if it can be done it must be done.

So what is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project? My working idea is that an international effort to reactivate as many volcanoes in Antarctica as possible in an ideal location for distributing the CO2/H20 will produce the best and most cost-effective results. Sorry, one-worlders, it won't give you a license to override and control any country's economy, but if your country is suffering from lack of food you will be too busy expanding farming to care. Hence until I think of or hear about a better way to increase world CO2/H20 levels, this is my pet project. If you are a scientist, please climb aboard my AVP Express and let's make it happen.

It Would Be Funny If It Were's So Sad

It would be funny it weren't so sad, but when the scientists say "greenhouse gas" they are using a malaprop. It should be greenhouse GLASS, because that's why a greenhouse stays warm, by glass walls stopping convection of air and trapping heat. Yes, CO2 is pumped into greenhouses, but not for heating purposes, only to help plants BREATHE. So the whole sucker's game of "greenhouse gas" must truly be for the purpose of stopping more vegetation from growing and feeding the teeming billions. Is that their true goal? Another blip on the horizon is the promise of melting permafrost releasing gigantic amounts of CO2 from the Arctic not Antarctic sector. Let's hope we at least get some more good CO2 that way.

Jan. 14, 2011. Good article on CO2 levels and global temps 30-40 million years ago

Aug. 31, 2011. Giant pipe and balloon to pump water into the sky in climate experiment

May 31, 2013. Scientists find that higher CO2 levels green arid regions

Mar. 30, 2015. Higher atmospheric CO2 levels causing boom in vegetation

Aug. 2015. 'Unprecedented' volcanic eruption released enough water vapor to heat Earth: report

Aug. 15, 2017. Scientists find 91 new volcanoes miles beneath Antarctica's thick ice sheet

How Much CO2 Do Volcanoes Emit?

Will a major volcanic eruption fix climate change? - James Matkin

Part of the heat is coming from beneath our feet

Did any volcanoes erupt in 2020?

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