Monday, May 18, 2020

The Kinetic Energy of Air Molecules & Altitude

https://principia-scientific.org/the-kinetic-energy-of-air-molecules-altitude/

My reply:

 Once again P-S stinks itself up with the crackpot thermodynamic theories of Herb Rose.
[[A black body, where all energy is absorbed, cannot be detected since it emits or reflects no energy and must have a temperature of absolute zero. As energy is added to it, it will cease to be a black body and emit energy according to the laws of thermodynamics.]]

This is so lame. Here’s the truth:

[[The name “black body” is given because it absorbs radiation in all frequencies, not because it only absorbs. Indeed, a black body can also emit radiation.]] – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body
[[The energy from any source will decrease with increasing distance from its source as the energy is spread over a larger area, but energy cannot be created or destroyed so the only other way that energy can decrease is if that energy is transferred to another object with less energy (not in equilibrium).

Duh, the inverse square law causes radiated energy to decrease with distance (except for collimated laser radiation), but energy can be transferred to another object with less or more energy. It just can’t transfer heat energy to a colder body and raise its temperature. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

[[At an altitude of 80 km the density of the air molecules is .000018 kg/m^3. These molecules will absorb energy coming from the sun and attain equilibrium with that energy, thereby reducing the amount of energy that continues towards the surface of the Earth.]]

Yes, but they absorb a tiny fraction of solar energy, allowing most of it to pass through to the surface. For the purposes of weather, it’s of little or no importance.

[[At sea level the density of the air molecules is 1.2 kg/m^3. These molecules will also absorb energy equalizing with the energy coming from the sun.

This means that even if no energy was being lost to the mass of the air molecules between altitudes of 0 km and 80 km (considerable energy is lost to this matter) the kinetic energy of an air molecule at 80 km will be 67,000 times the kinetic energy of the air molecule at 0 km.
Since matter radiates energy, not temperature and the transfer of energy is from objects with greater energy to objects with less energy this means the molecules of air higher in the atmosphere are transferring heat to the molecules lower in the atmosphere.]]

Play the Looney Tunes theme here. See my previous comment about your confusion of energy with heat energy emitted by objects.

[[The current contention that the atmosphere is warmer at lower altitudes because gravity adds energy to descending molecules is pure garbage. It is a result of the thermometer not giving an accurate indication of the kinetic energy of air molecules. To do that you must use the universal gas law, not a thermometer.]]

Duh, the atmosphere is warmer at the surface because that’s where the pressure of the air column above it is greatest, and a thermometer works using the UGL.

A classic thermometer is a bulb of mercury with a long glass capillary. The bulb is immersed in some fluid and achieves thermal equilibrium via conduction, and the fluid expands based on its average kinetic energy AKA TEMPERATURE. This expansion is ultimately based on the universal gas law, which is best seen with gas thermometers, but liquids behave similarly and have a coefficient of thermal expansion.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_thermometer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion

With mercury themometers the 0C mark is calibrated by immersing it in ice water, and the 100C mark by immersing it in steam, after which the capillary is marked into 100 equal increments A bunch of thermometers may not always agree on the exact numerical temperature value but will always agree on what fluid is hotter than the others. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermometer http://thermopedia.com/content/1197/

[[If the gas molecules in the atmosphere had little kinetic energy they would be a solid layer on the surface of the Earth. When they absorb energy they convert to a gas and the addition of more energy causes that gas to expand creating the atmosphere. When a molecule descends in the atmosphere it is losing energy, not gaining energy.]]

Duh, the kinetic energy of atmospheric molecules is easily measured with a THERMOMETER no matter what height. The lapse rate profile is graphed for you so look it up.When the surface of the Earth is heated by SUNLIGHT it heats up, and the air in contact absorbs some heat energy via conduction, becoming less dense and rising, then transforming heat into work to expand as the pressure decreases with height. So you have it backwards, like just about everything else. The Earth keeps rotating and getting basted by the Sun, keeping the atmosphere from freezing and dropping to the surface like on Mars.

[[Meteorology and climatology will remain fake sciences as long as they ignore the basic laws of physics and remain ignorant of the energy driving these systems.]]

We’re talking about thermodynamics here, not M and C. The latter has indeed been turned into fake science by the global Marxists at the U.N. IPCC with their fake CO2 back radiation hoax. But thermodynamics is a solid science and I wish I had 9 lives so I could study it more deeply. Before publishing any more ROTFL dumbass-stamped-on-my-forehead articles try studying and mastering a good text on Thermal Physics that bases it on quantum mechanics, either Kittel or Schroeder, if you’re able:

https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Thermal-Physics-Daniel-Schroeder/dp/0201380277/
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Physics-2nd-Charles-Kittel/dp/0716710889/

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What Is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project?

It's too bad the current brouhaha about CO2 is so narrowly focused. So what if a higher concentration in the atmosphere raises global average temps? If higher temps were accompanied by increased atmospheric moisture, it would even out around the world and turn it into a paradise planet, greening the deserts so that the teeming billions could be fed. Cold temperatures are inimical to life, not a goal of life.

Too bad, it might take a lot more CO2 than you think to really change the global weather, but not because it has any control over Earth's surface temperatures. In fact atmospheric CO2 can't melt an ice cube with its 15 micron main radiation wavelength that has a Planck radiation temperature of -80C, colder than dry ice (-78.5C).

Why do they call CO2 greenhouse gas? Because plants breathe it, and they pump it into greenhouses to help them grow and thrive. Polar regions and deserts look good in postcards, but who wants to live there. Meanwhile global pop. is zooming, so obviously the real answer is to pump more CO2 and water vapor into the atmosphere to turn the Earth into a greenhouse, turning deserts both hot and cold into lush green crop-growing regions like 35 million years ago when the avg. global temp was 88F and the CO2 level was 1K parts per million (vs. 415 PPM today). So what if we lose some desert polar regions and even some yummy coastline, the adjustments will be inconvenient but temporary, but I prefer shirt-sleeve weather to Frosty the Snowman. How many arctic animals can't adapt to a warmer climate? What animal needs to live in ice and snow and wouldn't like a vacation to Tahiti? They can lose the fat, hair or feathers.

The real question is can we make and keep the global CO2/H20 levels high enough, and for how long? Sooner or later mass global starvation will become unstoppable if world pop. keeps climbing, and this is the way to forestall it, if we act soon enough. Don't give me them Malthusian objections, give me some CO2/H20 solutions. I like a paradise Earth in the possibility window.

So, while the world is debating the horrors, extent or lack thereof of global warming caused by CO2, let's engineer the CO2/H20 solution to making the Earth a warm temperate planet from pole to pole with no deserts or ice wastelands, allowing vastly more food to be grown and turning poor nations rich. I DON'T mean a planet with wild swings between super-hot summers and super-cold winters, but one that is warmer than now everywhere, but moister and greener, with a giant network of plant life helping to avoid extremes. Since CO2 and water vapor are the keys, and the paltry amounts in the atmosphere need to be increased as soon as possible to turn deserts green and get the warming process off to a good start, but the new levels have to be maintained permanently, I'm looking to remote Antarctica (which is really a sea) as the most promising source for unlimited CO2 and water vapor generation, given that noxious emissions (sulfur dioxide, etc.) can be controlled.

This blog is for posting news on the world climate situation, scientific and political, along with my own articles. I'm sure it will start out with hardly any interest or followers, but I'm hoping that it will attract the smartest people eventually and in the end I hope for a global consensus that if it can be done it must be done.

So what is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project? My working idea is that an international effort to reactivate as many volcanoes in Antarctica as possible in an ideal location for distributing the CO2/H20 will produce the best and most cost-effective results. Sorry, one-worlders, it won't give you a license to override and control any country's economy, but if your country is suffering from lack of food you will be too busy expanding farming to care. Hence until I think of or hear about a better way to increase world CO2/H20 levels, this is my pet project. If you are a scientist, please climb aboard my AVP Express and let's make it happen.

It Would Be Funny If It Were's So Sad

It would be funny it weren't so sad, but when the scientists say "greenhouse gas" they are using a malaprop. It should be greenhouse GLASS, because that's why a greenhouse stays warm, by glass walls stopping convection of air and trapping heat. Yes, CO2 is pumped into greenhouses, but not for heating purposes, only to help plants BREATHE. So the whole sucker's game of "greenhouse gas" must truly be for the purpose of stopping more vegetation from growing and feeding the teeming billions. Is that their true goal? Another blip on the horizon is the promise of melting permafrost releasing gigantic amounts of CO2 from the Arctic not Antarctic sector. Let's hope we at least get some more good CO2 that way.

Jan. 14, 2011. Good article on CO2 levels and global temps 30-40 million years ago

Aug. 31, 2011. Giant pipe and balloon to pump water into the sky in climate experiment

May 31, 2013. Scientists find that higher CO2 levels green arid regions

Mar. 30, 2015. Higher atmospheric CO2 levels causing boom in vegetation

Aug. 2015. 'Unprecedented' volcanic eruption released enough water vapor to heat Earth: report

Aug. 15, 2017. Scientists find 91 new volcanoes miles beneath Antarctica's thick ice sheet

How Much CO2 Do Volcanoes Emit?

Will a major volcanic eruption fix climate change? - James Matkin

Part of the heat is coming from beneath our feet

Did any volcanoes erupt in 2020?

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