Monday, August 19, 2019

Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Cannot Exist So What Does CO2 Really Do?

https://principia-scientific.org/atmospheric-greenhouse-effect-cannot-exist-so-what-does-co2-really-do/

My reply:
https://principia-scientific.org/atmospheric-greenhouse-effect-cannot-exist-so-what-does-co2-really-do/#comment-25286

This article is so lame. CO2 only absorbs surface IR in a narrow band around 15 microns, which is in the far infrared, which mainly heats only water. This narrow band contains only 8% of the total, and since any material emits radiation along its Planck temperature power-wavelength curve, not at the wavelengths it absorbed energy at (witness the ground absorbing visible light and emitting only IR radiation after reflecting some visible light), even if IR readmitted all its IR energy straight back to the surface from 1 inch away, it would cause its Planck radiation curve to shift to a higher power curve and cool faster, something which can’t runaway via a feedback loop because the gain is way less than 1. Worse, the radiation is supposed to be governed by the inverse-square law dispersing in all directions, and way less than 8% can ever hit the surface.

The reflection of visible light doesn’t take collisions among surface molecules to trigger, but is instantaneous, a big difference.. If the CO2 AGW hoaxers claimed that CO2 reflects IR they’d at least have a little credibility, but alas, they show lab demonstrations of tubes filled with CO2 warming more than tubes filled with plain air, when if CO2 reemitted radiation the CO2-filled tube would remain cool and heat a nearby slab of concrete or tank of water.

Unless the air near the surface is hotter than the surface, which isn’t likely because of convection, which pushes warmer air up and colder air down, there can be no net heat transfer from the air to the surface, the presence of CO2 notwithstanding. The CO2 AGW hoaxers keep claiming that increases in atmospheric CO2 cause corresponding increases in surface temperature (yearly avg. at least), not just more comfortable temperature swings, which doesn’t compute, but they don’t care because it’s a hoax and the cash registers are ringing. Too bad, your article seems to half-swallow the hoax.

As to collisions in the sky, what makes you think that every collision by a CO2 molecule causes it to burp its surface radiation instead of transferring kinetic energy to what it’s bumping into, if it’s hotter because of its absorbed IR? The atmosphere is always trying to equalize its temperature, and heat cannot flow from colder to hotter, therefore why would hopped-up CO2 radiate anything after it bumped into colder air and cooled down?

As to the blanket effect, CO2 has no role in it. Instead, the entire atmosphere blocks IR radiation with conduction and convection, and like any mass it can only warm and cool so fast, so it naturally moderates the temperature swings like a blanket as it removes the surface heat and sends it to space, no different than when you stick an iron poker in a fire and the tip glows red while the handle remains cool. This would be true even if there were no CO2 in the atmosphere, or if the atmosphere were pure CO2. If anything the latter case would cool the surface faster like in CO2 refrigeration units. Anybody who really believes in the umpteen watts per square meter back radiation hoax has the IQ of a doughnut, and I have an ice cube-powered flamethrower patent to sell him.

The atmosphere is a giant chimney not greenhouse, and until that becomes the main paradigm the field is stuck on stupid. “The human mind is capable of infinite self-deception.” (Charles Smith)

All of climate science has been turned into fake science by bestowing nonexistent magical heating powers to CO2 while denigrating the role of the Sun as the surface’s only heat source, and all of the current degreed climate scientists should be short-sheeted and retrained for useful careers while real physicists remake their science from the er, ground up.

Only I have a free online course setting the field straight from my usual know-it-all perspective. Click the above link, roll up your sleeves, and finally see through the swamp.

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What Is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project?

It's too bad the current brouhaha about CO2 is so narrowly focused. So what if a higher concentration in the atmosphere raises global average temps? If higher temps were accompanied by increased atmospheric moisture, it would even out around the world and turn it into a paradise planet, greening the deserts so that the teeming billions could be fed. Cold temperatures are inimical to life, not a goal of life.

Too bad, it might take a lot more CO2 than you think to really change the global weather, but not because it has any control over Earth's surface temperatures. In fact atmospheric CO2 can't melt an ice cube with its 15 micron main radiation wavelength that has a Planck radiation temperature of -80C, colder than dry ice (-78.5C).

Why do they call CO2 greenhouse gas? Because plants breathe it, and they pump it into greenhouses to help them grow and thrive. Polar regions and deserts look good in postcards, but who wants to live there. Meanwhile global pop. is zooming, so obviously the real answer is to pump more CO2 and water vapor into the atmosphere to turn the Earth into a greenhouse, turning deserts both hot and cold into lush green crop-growing regions like 35 million years ago when the avg. global temp was 88F and the CO2 level was 1K parts per million (vs. 415 PPM today). So what if we lose some desert polar regions and even some yummy coastline, the adjustments will be inconvenient but temporary, but I prefer shirt-sleeve weather to Frosty the Snowman. How many arctic animals can't adapt to a warmer climate? What animal needs to live in ice and snow and wouldn't like a vacation to Tahiti? They can lose the fat, hair or feathers.

The real question is can we make and keep the global CO2/H20 levels high enough, and for how long? Sooner or later mass global starvation will become unstoppable if world pop. keeps climbing, and this is the way to forestall it, if we act soon enough. Don't give me them Malthusian objections, give me some CO2/H20 solutions. I like a paradise Earth in the possibility window.

So, while the world is debating the horrors, extent or lack thereof of global warming caused by CO2, let's engineer the CO2/H20 solution to making the Earth a warm temperate planet from pole to pole with no deserts or ice wastelands, allowing vastly more food to be grown and turning poor nations rich. I DON'T mean a planet with wild swings between super-hot summers and super-cold winters, but one that is warmer than now everywhere, but moister and greener, with a giant network of plant life helping to avoid extremes. Since CO2 and water vapor are the keys, and the paltry amounts in the atmosphere need to be increased as soon as possible to turn deserts green and get the warming process off to a good start, but the new levels have to be maintained permanently, I'm looking to remote Antarctica (which is really a sea) as the most promising source for unlimited CO2 and water vapor generation, given that noxious emissions (sulfur dioxide, etc.) can be controlled.

This blog is for posting news on the world climate situation, scientific and political, along with my own articles. I'm sure it will start out with hardly any interest or followers, but I'm hoping that it will attract the smartest people eventually and in the end I hope for a global consensus that if it can be done it must be done.

So what is the Antarctic Volcanoes Project? My working idea is that an international effort to reactivate as many volcanoes in Antarctica as possible in an ideal location for distributing the CO2/H20 will produce the best and most cost-effective results. Sorry, one-worlders, it won't give you a license to override and control any country's economy, but if your country is suffering from lack of food you will be too busy expanding farming to care. Hence until I think of or hear about a better way to increase world CO2/H20 levels, this is my pet project. If you are a scientist, please climb aboard my AVP Express and let's make it happen.

It Would Be Funny If It Were's So Sad

It would be funny it weren't so sad, but when the scientists say "greenhouse gas" they are using a malaprop. It should be greenhouse GLASS, because that's why a greenhouse stays warm, by glass walls stopping convection of air and trapping heat. Yes, CO2 is pumped into greenhouses, but not for heating purposes, only to help plants BREATHE. So the whole sucker's game of "greenhouse gas" must truly be for the purpose of stopping more vegetation from growing and feeding the teeming billions. Is that their true goal? Another blip on the horizon is the promise of melting permafrost releasing gigantic amounts of CO2 from the Arctic not Antarctic sector. Let's hope we at least get some more good CO2 that way.

Jan. 14, 2011. Good article on CO2 levels and global temps 30-40 million years ago

Aug. 31, 2011. Giant pipe and balloon to pump water into the sky in climate experiment

May 31, 2013. Scientists find that higher CO2 levels green arid regions

Mar. 30, 2015. Higher atmospheric CO2 levels causing boom in vegetation

Aug. 2015. 'Unprecedented' volcanic eruption released enough water vapor to heat Earth: report

Aug. 15, 2017. Scientists find 91 new volcanoes miles beneath Antarctica's thick ice sheet

How Much CO2 Do Volcanoes Emit?

Will a major volcanic eruption fix climate change? - James Matkin

Part of the heat is coming from beneath our feet

Did any volcanoes erupt in 2020?

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