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The Kinetic Energy of Air Molecules & Altitude
https://principia-scientific.org/the-kinetic-energy-of-air-molecules-altitude/
My reply:
Once again P-S stinks itself up with the crackpot thermodynamic theories of Herb Rose.
[[A black body, where all energy is absorbed, cannot be detected since it emits or reflects no energy and must have a temperature of absolute zero. As energy is added to it, it will cease to be a black body and emit energy according to the laws of thermodynamics.]]
This is so lame. Here’s the truth:
[[The name “black body” is given because it absorbs radiation in all frequencies, not because it only absorbs. Indeed, a black body can also emit radiation.]] – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body
[[The energy from any source will decrease with increasing distance from its source as the energy is spread over a larger area, but energy cannot be created or destroyed so the only other way that energy can decrease is if that energy is transferred to another object with less energy (not in equilibrium).
Duh, the inverse square law causes radiated energy to decrease with distance (except for collimated laser radiation), but energy can be transferred to another object with less or more energy. It just can’t transfer heat energy to a colder body and raise its temperature. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics
[[At an altitude of 80 km the density of the air molecules is .000018 kg/m^3. These molecules will absorb energy coming from the sun and attain equilibrium with that energy, thereby reducing the amount of energy that continues towards the surface of the Earth.]]
Yes, but they absorb a tiny fraction of solar energy, allowing most of it to pass through to the surface. For the purposes of weather, it’s of little or no importance.
[[At sea level the density of the air molecules is 1.2 kg/m^3. These molecules will also absorb energy equalizing with the energy coming from the sun.
This means that even if no energy was being lost to the mass of the air molecules between altitudes of 0 km and 80 km (considerable energy is lost to this matter) the kinetic energy of an air molecule at 80 km will be 67,000 times the kinetic energy of the air molecule at 0 km.
Since matter radiates energy, not temperature and the transfer of energy is from objects with greater energy to objects with less energy this means the molecules of air higher in the atmosphere are transferring heat to the molecules lower in the atmosphere.]]
Play the Looney Tunes theme here. See my previous comment about your confusion of energy with heat energy emitted by objects.
[[The current contention that the atmosphere is warmer at lower altitudes because gravity adds energy to descending molecules is pure garbage. It is a result of the thermometer not giving an accurate indication of the kinetic energy of air molecules. To do that you must use the universal gas law, not a thermometer.]]
Duh, the atmosphere is warmer at the surface because that’s where the pressure of the air column above it is greatest, and a thermometer works using the UGL.
A classic thermometer is a bulb of mercury with a long glass capillary. The bulb is immersed in some fluid and achieves thermal equilibrium via conduction, and the fluid expands based on its average kinetic energy AKA TEMPERATURE. This expansion is ultimately based on the universal gas law, which is best seen with gas thermometers, but liquids behave similarly and have a coefficient of thermal expansion.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_thermometer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion
With mercury themometers the 0C mark is calibrated by immersing it in ice water, and the 100C mark by immersing it in steam, after which the capillary is marked into 100 equal increments A bunch of thermometers may not always agree on the exact numerical temperature value but will always agree on what fluid is hotter than the others. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermometer http://thermopedia.com/content/1197/
[[If the gas molecules in the atmosphere had little kinetic energy they would be a solid layer on the surface of the Earth. When they absorb energy they convert to a gas and the addition of more energy causes that gas to expand creating the atmosphere. When a molecule descends in the atmosphere it is losing energy, not gaining energy.]]
Duh, the kinetic energy of atmospheric molecules is easily measured with a THERMOMETER no matter what height. The lapse rate profile is graphed for you so look it up.When the surface of the Earth is heated by SUNLIGHT it heats up, and the air in contact absorbs some heat energy via conduction, becoming less dense and rising, then transforming heat into work to expand as the pressure decreases with height. So you have it backwards, like just about everything else. The Earth keeps rotating and getting basted by the Sun, keeping the atmosphere from freezing and dropping to the surface like on Mars.
[[Meteorology and climatology will remain fake sciences as long as they ignore the basic laws of physics and remain ignorant of the energy driving these systems.]]
We’re talking about thermodynamics here, not M and C. The latter has indeed been turned into fake science by the global Marxists at the U.N. IPCC with their fake CO2 back radiation hoax. But thermodynamics is a solid science and I wish I had 9 lives so I could study it more deeply. Before publishing any more ROTFL dumbass-stamped-on-my-forehead articles try studying and mastering a good text on Thermal Physics that bases it on quantum mechanics, either Kittel or Schroeder, if you’re able:
https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Thermal-Physics-Daniel-Schroeder/dp/0201380277/
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Physics-2nd-Charles-Kittel/dp/0716710889/
TLW, WGG
http://tlwinslow.weebly.com
https://www.quora.com/q/newrealclimatescience
http://www.historyscoper.com/newrealclimatesciencecourse.html
My reply:
Once again P-S stinks itself up with the crackpot thermodynamic theories of Herb Rose.
[[A black body, where all energy is absorbed, cannot be detected since it emits or reflects no energy and must have a temperature of absolute zero. As energy is added to it, it will cease to be a black body and emit energy according to the laws of thermodynamics.]]
This is so lame. Here’s the truth:
[[The name “black body” is given because it absorbs radiation in all frequencies, not because it only absorbs. Indeed, a black body can also emit radiation.]] – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body
[[The energy from any source will decrease with increasing distance from its source as the energy is spread over a larger area, but energy cannot be created or destroyed so the only other way that energy can decrease is if that energy is transferred to another object with less energy (not in equilibrium).
Duh, the inverse square law causes radiated energy to decrease with distance (except for collimated laser radiation), but energy can be transferred to another object with less or more energy. It just can’t transfer heat energy to a colder body and raise its temperature. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics
[[At an altitude of 80 km the density of the air molecules is .000018 kg/m^3. These molecules will absorb energy coming from the sun and attain equilibrium with that energy, thereby reducing the amount of energy that continues towards the surface of the Earth.]]
Yes, but they absorb a tiny fraction of solar energy, allowing most of it to pass through to the surface. For the purposes of weather, it’s of little or no importance.
[[At sea level the density of the air molecules is 1.2 kg/m^3. These molecules will also absorb energy equalizing with the energy coming from the sun.
This means that even if no energy was being lost to the mass of the air molecules between altitudes of 0 km and 80 km (considerable energy is lost to this matter) the kinetic energy of an air molecule at 80 km will be 67,000 times the kinetic energy of the air molecule at 0 km.
Since matter radiates energy, not temperature and the transfer of energy is from objects with greater energy to objects with less energy this means the molecules of air higher in the atmosphere are transferring heat to the molecules lower in the atmosphere.]]
Play the Looney Tunes theme here. See my previous comment about your confusion of energy with heat energy emitted by objects.
[[The current contention that the atmosphere is warmer at lower altitudes because gravity adds energy to descending molecules is pure garbage. It is a result of the thermometer not giving an accurate indication of the kinetic energy of air molecules. To do that you must use the universal gas law, not a thermometer.]]
Duh, the atmosphere is warmer at the surface because that’s where the pressure of the air column above it is greatest, and a thermometer works using the UGL.
A classic thermometer is a bulb of mercury with a long glass capillary. The bulb is immersed in some fluid and achieves thermal equilibrium via conduction, and the fluid expands based on its average kinetic energy AKA TEMPERATURE. This expansion is ultimately based on the universal gas law, which is best seen with gas thermometers, but liquids behave similarly and have a coefficient of thermal expansion.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_thermometer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion
With mercury themometers the 0C mark is calibrated by immersing it in ice water, and the 100C mark by immersing it in steam, after which the capillary is marked into 100 equal increments A bunch of thermometers may not always agree on the exact numerical temperature value but will always agree on what fluid is hotter than the others. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermometer http://thermopedia.com/content/1197/
[[If the gas molecules in the atmosphere had little kinetic energy they would be a solid layer on the surface of the Earth. When they absorb energy they convert to a gas and the addition of more energy causes that gas to expand creating the atmosphere. When a molecule descends in the atmosphere it is losing energy, not gaining energy.]]
Duh, the kinetic energy of atmospheric molecules is easily measured with a THERMOMETER no matter what height. The lapse rate profile is graphed for you so look it up.When the surface of the Earth is heated by SUNLIGHT it heats up, and the air in contact absorbs some heat energy via conduction, becoming less dense and rising, then transforming heat into work to expand as the pressure decreases with height. So you have it backwards, like just about everything else. The Earth keeps rotating and getting basted by the Sun, keeping the atmosphere from freezing and dropping to the surface like on Mars.
[[Meteorology and climatology will remain fake sciences as long as they ignore the basic laws of physics and remain ignorant of the energy driving these systems.]]
We’re talking about thermodynamics here, not M and C. The latter has indeed been turned into fake science by the global Marxists at the U.N. IPCC with their fake CO2 back radiation hoax. But thermodynamics is a solid science and I wish I had 9 lives so I could study it more deeply. Before publishing any more ROTFL dumbass-stamped-on-my-forehead articles try studying and mastering a good text on Thermal Physics that bases it on quantum mechanics, either Kittel or Schroeder, if you’re able:
https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Thermal-Physics-Daniel-Schroeder/dp/0201380277/
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Physics-2nd-Charles-Kittel/dp/0716710889/
TLW, WGG
http://tlwinslow.weebly.com
https://www.quora.com/q/newrealclimatescience
http://www.historyscoper.com/newrealclimatesciencecourse.html